Contact Report 435


• Contact Reports volume: 11 (Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte, Gespräche, Block 11)

• Page number(s): 22-23

• Date/time of contact: Thursday, 5th October, 2006, 3:16 pm

• Translator(s): Dyson Devine, Vivienne Legg

• Date of original translation: Sunday, 24th April, 2011

• Corrections and improvements made: N/A

• Contact person: Ptaah


This is an excerpt of the contact.

Billy and Ptaah discuss the oldest material in the possession of the Plejaren and how it relates to the expansion of the material belt of the universe.


Yet a question: you told me that you possess a piece of material that is 38,000,000,000 years old.

But our astrophysicists always speak of our material universe being only 13,700,000,000 years old.

How does that make sense?


67. The entire universe is around 46,000,000,000,000 years old, while the material belt

[1] - that is to say, that part of the universe which terrestrial scientists call the universe - is much younger, as a consequence of the constant renewal of the visible material belt, which is surrounded - inwardly towards the centre and outwardly towards the outermost belt - by six further belts which constantly expand, that is to say, stretch, as do the galaxies.

68. In the same way, the material belt of the universe - that is to say, the visible, material part of the universe which Earth human beings wrongly call the universe - expands, that is to say, stretches, constantly, whereby this, however, also changes and renews itself again and again, which occurs approximately every 49,000,000,000 years, as our newest research, which has only recently been concluded, demonstrates.

69. One such change took place around 17,000,000,000 years ago, whereby the beginning of the change occurred, without a transitional period, in the two belts - the inner and outer - which directly enclose the material belt.

70. In the inner and outer transition zones, in which the change occurs, there exists as yet no solid matter, because this first begins materially to solidify into coarse matter in the actual material part of the material belt, the actual beginning of which - seen from the Milky Way, that is to say, the Earth - is about 15,000,000,000 light years distant.

71. That means that the transition zones of the adjacent inner and outer belts take up the greatest distance, and that it is also from there that the so-called background radiation originates.

72. What is interesting about that is also that the material belt indeed expands outwardly and ages. However, inwardly, it becomes younger up to the point in time of its renewal, which means that, therefore, the greater age of the material belt is measured at the outside, while its interior proves to be younger.

73. Therefore, a constant coming about is underway in the inside of the material belt, while, in the regions of the belt which stretch outwardly, there is a passing away.

74. Once the high point of the development of the material belt is achieved, then a renewed passing away and change begins, out of which a new material belt - or, seen in the terrestrial sense, a new material universe - emerges.

75. And concerning the material which is 38,000,000,000 years old: we found this tiny particle in the transition zone, and, indeed, in the region near the material belt.


If I am right, then that means that our material belt - that is to say, our visible, material part of the universe - will persist for 32,000,000,000 more years, before a transformation occurs again.

And how must one imagine this transformation?


76. The entirety of the coarse-matter material, of every kind, renews itself. Consequently, therefore, new galaxies, stars and planets, and so forth, come into existence.

77. With this transformation, which takes place within about 2,000,000,000 years, certain residues remain, which are deposited both in the transition zones, and in the material belt, as dark energy and as particle-like dark matter, which can, with special technologies, be captured and measured.

78. This dark matter is, therefore, very much older than the actual coarse matter material of the visible material belt - that is to say, than the visible part of the universe - which is mistakenly referred to as the universe by the Earth human beings, although this material belt constitutes only one part out of the seven parts which make up the actual universe.


1. Although belt is FIGUs customary translation of the word, Gürtel, that description provides a misleading image of the nested, layers-of-the-onion configuration of our entire universe, however, the thickness (width) of these individual layers varies enormously.

1. Central Core: radius = 3.5 light years

2. Ur-Core: width = 1 x 1014 light years

3. Ur-Space: width = 1 x 1014 light years

4. Solid Matter (Material) Universe Belt (includes all galaxies, planets, stars, etc.): width = 2.5 x 1015 light years = 25 times the width of the 3rd Belt

5. Transformation Belt: width = 1 x 1055 light years or 4 times 1039 the width of the 4th Belt

6. Creation Belt: width = 1.4 x 1064 light years = 5.6 times 1048 the width of the 4th Belt or 1.4 times 109 the size of the 5th Belt

7. Displacement Belt: width = 1.4 x 107 light years

(source: adapted from FIGU glossary)






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